Longer Term coaching
Long term Coaching,
There is something that has been bothering me a lot as of late and honestly it’s probably upsetting me more than it should be
Working with a pick up company for almost close to a year now, it’s been quite the experience so its so different than what the norm is. It’s been fun, rewarding, a lot of work and definitely something I do not regret at all whatsoever. I mean come on, you’re paid to travel the world and teach this to other guys, definitely beats the 9-5 ( internally speaking at least).
In anycase, the thing that has been bothering me is the progression of a lot of the guys I see that come into the program. It’s almost reminiscent to seeing a lot of my friends that join gyms. They’re all gung ho about it, they’ll go out and buy supplements, invest in some awesome gear and then what happens? They’re quit after about 2 weeks, it’s ridiculous, I mean at the very least bit, getting some cool work out gear will cost you $200 bucks at the most, but with pick up, it’s NOT the case.
I’d have to say that only 2/10 clients I come across actually continue their education, which leads me to believe that their women issues are NOT only mechanic in nature, but it’s their lack of discipline that’s really causing the root of the problem. For me, it was strictly mechanic, my body language was off, my inner game was terrible, I had limiting beliefs, what have you. But with enough focused effort, I fixed most if not all those problems, but of course that came with hard work, time and discipline.
Anways getting back to that 2/10 figure, that just goes to show that 8 men out of 10 just simply give up afterwards.
If you’re one of those guys that doesn’t continue education afterwards, you’re not entirely screwed, that’s not what I’m trying to say, but very few of those men actually follow up with the program.
For example, at the ABC’s, there’s a forum filled with great resources. You have access to Johnny Wolf, APB himself and the other coaches, yet I only see a handful that actually participate.
The simplest way to get better at pick up is just to WRITE FIELD REPORTS. If you go back in history, you’ll find a lot of mine on Detroit PUA and the ABC’s boards, experience is a good teacher, but EVALUATED experience is an even better teacher.
If you actually sit down and write a field report it will actually force you to evaluate your problems and give you better insight to your sticking points. Otherwise, it just becomes a mesh of experiences and you’ll end up feeling lost after a while. Anyways, just wanted to get that off my chest.
This actually has been a recurring thought of mine for quite some time now and I will give some credit to DJ Fuji for brining this out to light because I honestly thought I was the only person to think this.
Pick up is a service based industry that essentially is education. There is a complete inefficiency with the pick up industry. The whole concept of a bootcamp is definitely something that is quite unique to pick up. It’s the primary source of education and is pretty much the standard with all pick up companies including the one I’m currently affiliated with.
As far as pick up goes, it would be inevitable for me to become proficient, it’s not that I’m talented, smarter, quicker or faster, it’s just simply because I wanted it real bad and it was the consistence and persistence that really made the difference in the end. Combining all this hard work over time with constant instruction from all the top guys truly brought to where I am today.
I remember before I got on the show, I recall telling myself that if I didn’t make it that I was willing to shell out the dollar amount necessary in order for me to get good at the art-form.
In retrospect, learning pick up wasn’t terribly difficult conceptually speaking, it’s pretty straight forward and for the most part, your common sense will get you by.
I notice that many guys that never get good just don’t simply put the work in, it’s the same reason guys never get in shape, it has NOTHING to do with the activity and has more to do with the person’s own self-discipline.
So my question is, why doesn’t the industry facilitate this?
I’ve never seen a long term coaching program in pick up, yet I’ve come across dozens of clients that tell me they’re serious about pick up and really want to master the craft. The only real option is to take multiple bootcamps and the flaw I feel with that is that there is a lot of content that is repeated and that it takes more detailed, specific, one-one attention as the PUA becomes more skilled.
I’ve always been a firm believer that if you’re going to do something, do it right or just don’t do it at all. Going to the gym once or twice isn’t going to do jack for you, and quite frankly, taking one bootcamp and just throwing in the towel afterwards (I’d say this is at least (60% of guys I come across) isn’t going to help you either.
Tell you what, I don’t see why Jewish people get such bad rap for being cheap because quite honestly, I think Asians are the cheapest ethnic group in existence. My dad will honestly drive around town for 3 hours trying to save 3 dollars. In anycase, some of that has permeated into my personality. If I were to take a bootcamp and pay say 3,000 dollars, I better damn well make sure I make that into something.
I see guys do that all the time and quite frankly, they’ve just wasted 3,000 dollars of their cash. Better you spend an extra 6 grand and actually LEARN the skill over the course of a year than to just spend 3,000 and go absolutely nowhere.
In anycase, I will definitely be discussing this with higher authority and will try and will be looking into longer term coaching programs because quite frankly, that’s the only way you’re going to get better. Bootcamps are NOT a magic bullet and I would make an argument that it would take at least 2 or 3 of them in conjunction with a persons own self development program to actually become sufficient at the art.



Funny you should mention all of this with long term training and all... you must be psychic
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Funny you should mention long term training... http://www.taoofdjfuji.com/?p=98
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